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Life in a Tiny House called Fy Nyth - Is Solar Green? What I didn't know.

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Did you know about these things I wasn't aware of when I set up my solar power system? Some places to start if you are looking for for more info on this topic: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2014/11/141111-solar-panel-manufacturing-sustainability-ranking/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/05/23/if-solar-panels-are-so-clean-why-do-they-produce-so-much-toxic-waste/#775283a8121c https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/23/solar-panel-waste-a-disposal-problem/ https://theconversation.com/does-green-energy-have-hidden-health-and-environmental-costs-52484 https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/science-environment/the-not-so-sunny-side-of-solar-panels/ http://www.onlynaturalenergy.com/the-true-carbon-footprint-of-photovoltaic-energy/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/opinion/mondaycop22-lower-co2-emissions-with-lower-carbon-solar-energy/1057375/ https://www.sightline.org/2018/06/25/small-town-silicon-smelter-plan-tees-up-big-questions/ https://academic.oup.com/occmed/article/66/5/412/1752887 *************************************************************** If you are new to my channel and Fy Nyth (Welsh for "My Nest") in general, welcome! I'm Ariel. I live off grid (as in no physical connection to public utilities) in a tiny house on wheels in the mountains of western Wyoming. I've been living this lifestyle for over four years now and love it! What will you find if you follow my channel and watch my videos? Real life here. I try to show the good and the bad. The ups and the downs. What works, and what doesn't. The parts I love (most of it!), and the things that suck. Not just the showroom version of a tiny house, but everyday life in a tiny house. Not just the romantic idea of "homesteading" or off grid life, but the everyday details of this lifestyle. I split my own wood for heat, carry my water by hand, and attempt to grow as much of my own food as I can between the weather and wildlife here. I hope to help others learn from my mistakes and make life just a little easier for anyone else interested in pursuing a similar lifestyle. I live in a somewhat harsh and cold climate, but enjoy the stunning sceanery and wildlife that I am surrounded by on a daily basis. You'll also see videos of of the nature and wildlife around my home. If you are interested in my photography or purchasing a photo, I'd love if you follow that over at Facebook.com/ArielCelestePhotography or ArielCelestePhotography.zenfolio.com! For a bit of my background, as a child, I was fortunate enough to be able to spend much of my free time exploring and playing in the woods. Little has changed now that I'm older I suppose. I moved to a place with a bigger woods and still enjoy spending my time outside gardening, hiking, exploring, and photographing the natural world around me. As the eldest of seven children who grew up in a homeschooling family, I had the opportunity, not always appreciated at the time, to learn to do quite a bit of work. I've enjoyed a wide range of jobs, everything from greenhouses and flower arranging to wilderness therapy with teens, to milking cows. Mostly, I enjoy doing the kinds of things that I think provide a real service or value to others. Some of my other hobbies include backpacking, hosting people, cooking, preserving food, anything to do with nutrition, reading, journalling, and sitting around a fire and talking to my close friends. Check out a few of the videos below to catch up on what goes on here! For lived in Tiny House Tour - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfc8_29Y6rs For a detailed kitchen (my kitchen is a big part of my house!) tour - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6qiNrIfCjw How I bought my tiny house and all the details on price and financing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeToB2zilw A look at my house through the seasons for an idea of the kind of climate I live in - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U53EnSVKLQ Looking for any of the items I use regularly and love? You can find them all here - http://amazon.com/shop/fynyth . Purchases do support this channel at no extra cost to you. Thank you! Many thanks to all of you amazing people! If you really value the info you find on my channel, are very comfortable yourself, and want to help out with things here, there are two ways to do so that are a huge help to me! My Paypal account address is [email protected] And I keep a running wish list of things I could use around here at http://a.co/aSEscEa .
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One Bar Ranch (9 days ago)
Thank you for weighing into this conversation. Your thoughts and concerns were well laid out and pesented. We agree, that if every person took responsibility for thier own choices and actions in all our daily lives, the world would be a healthier place to live.
MrDementori (13 days ago)
Everything has an impact, yes, but I think you have made very good decisions. Solar panels won't last forever but they should continue to operate for decades past the warranty period. They might produce a little less but it shouldn't be a problem in your case. Lead acid batteries are likely the first thing to fail so it is good to have a plan for that. Lead acid batteries are proven technology with good recycling facilities so I don't think it would be such a bad thing to just get new ones. Maybe downsize the battery and consumption if you can. You could also look into recycled lithium batteries. There are quite a few people who are using cells from old laptop, power tool and medical equipment battery packs (18650 diy powerwall). Currently there are no good recycling for these so the best we can do is re-use them. Also in the not so distant future, there will be lots of old EV batteries that beg to get a second life in off grid homes.
Cathy Griffith (29 days ago)
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Debra Rhymes (1 month ago)
Ariel. We also have solar and thought it was a cleaner alternative. We do not have a battery bank yet. We use propane to grill food outside. It doesn’t sound like there is a zero impact power source other than eating everything raw or using a solar oven. I have no problem eating jerky as most of my meat. That’s neither here nor there..... You live in a way that feeds you responsibly. It’s all we can do to help extend our planet as a whole. Blessings to you.
Fy Nyth (13 days ago)
To you as well.
Atholl McNicoll (1 month ago)
See when folk discover and invent things, well its out there as a trade off compared to older more pollutant ideas on power generation but each has its drawbacks and over time we find the public find out about these, after all who can say in maybe 20 years time man will still exist? We have to forward think about power regeneration and its costs!!
samshead (1 month ago)
Everybody watching this is doing so on a computer or phone (simply a pocket computer). The production of these items and the disposal of them is far and away more damaging to the environment and the people and other animals that live in it than the solar panels that power your house. The production of the steel in your stove is incredibly dangerous. Even the production of the wood you have built your house with is harmful in many ways. Not to mention any plastic around. There are seven and a half billion people on this beautiful rock. The key is in understanding how our actions impact the environment we all need to live. The use of energy (as we are able to do so at the moment) is remarkably inefficient. We need to learn to crawl before we can walk or even run. The important thing is to be aware of the costs of these things so that we can make things better. P.S. I strongly encourage you to make your own decisions and be comfortable in them. Always be true to yourself and let the light shine. :)
78gravedigger (1 month ago)
I’m not off grid. But I love the idea, and try to be green when I can. I enjoy your conversations, and info. Way better than mainstream tv. I love coinciding with the environment and like to be around people who do too. I cook outdoors and do some bushcraft, and compost. Maybe one day I will convert to off grid, love the information. 😎
Bite the Bullet (1 month ago)
whats the alternative? no power? every form of energy has tradeoffs. all our forms of energy rely on fossil fuels (including freezing water for refrigeration) in one way or another. solar panels are stored energy...buy them now while you still can. small scale hydro is the most eco friendly option...if you have access to a fast flowing stream...consider that.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
As I discussed, yes that's what I'm leaning towards. Micro hydro is pretty neat and something I hope to pursue on my own property in the future.
Margaret James (1 month ago)
'Hi Ariel...so informative and interesting subject conversation...on your recent gardening subjects like the gopher subject...did some of the viewers leave helpful suggestions on how to get rid of their chew...how do you cope with them..?I'm curious of this problem with gardening...'#mj1*🌻:-)*
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Oh there's always lots of suggestions. :) So far over three years of trying everything folks say will work (gum, 3 kinds of poison, 5 kinds of traps, car exhaust, repellent plants, human urine, gas bombs, propane gassing, encouraging the owls, foxes, etc to hang out, and so on) I don't think I've even managed to bother one of them. Much less actually get rid of or kill one. :) Hence the decision to try to build beds they simply could not get into.
Wendy Weaver (1 month ago)
Another system to generate electricity is using steam. This 1997 article -- https://www.backwoodshome.com/is-steam-power-in-your-future/ -- provides a good overview of steam and steam boiler systems. If I have understood correctly, using steam would require probably require batteries unless usage is nearly continuous but would not have the dollar and environmental costs of solar panels. This article -- https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=18696 -- is about steam-powered generator that is fueled by any combustible material (wood, hap, etc.) which produces electricity and heat. It is pricey at $25,000 but that could be reasonable when compared to a solar system over 10 or 20 years. (There are problems, of course, such as constant monitoring during operation, which may reduce its use to a group of owners who can spread the costs to add automatic controls.) There is another fuel source for electricity: Leg power using a modified bicycle connected to a generator. Here is an slick example: https://newatlas.com/free-electric-bike/40963/#gallery But here is a good-news/bad-news article that concludes leg-power is inefficient: https://www.offthegridnews.com/grid-threats/7-shocking-facts-about-bicycle-generators/. And here is a DIY bicycle generator video: https://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=kVAZIDFMRXY.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Not a bad idea. Just far to large and expensive for me currently at about 9 times the cost of my current setup. I do like the leg power idea! That might not be a bad plan for very small amounts of power use.
Wendy Weaver (1 month ago)
Ariel - Have you thought about generating your own electric power using your stream? A camp I attended (located in the foothills of the Cascade Mountains) had a small hydro system that produced the electricity for the central building from a small quantity of water diverted from a stream. The system ran from early morning until lights out at 9:00 PM. I do not remember whether the diversion was to a small reservoir that increased the water velocity or if the diversion ran freely to the turbine blades. I do know that storage batteries were not used so the output varied during the year due to variations in the stream's water volume (low in the winter, of course). This is a link to a introductory tutorial about small/mini/micro hydro systems: http://www.alternative-energy-tutorials.com/hydro-energy/small-scale-hydro-power.html ETA: Article from Mother Earth News about Homestead Hydropower - https://www.motherearthnews.com/renewable-energy/hydroelectric-power-systems#axzz2bwAI6rIs
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I am very interested in looking more into that for my own place in the future. Here the creek freezes solid for much of the winter, so it's kind of a no go for any winter power.
Norman Mallory (1 month ago)
The other thing that's a worry, is big money runs this country always has.. Do our elected officials have a clue what's really good for the world? So far it don't look like it.. I can make myself crazy about a lot of what's going on.. Like where I live, public is invited to open public meeting at the city hall, no one agrees on nothing , nothing is solved, it just goes on and on... What's changed after years of discussion, nothing really except now the project costs 20 times more and people are still unhappy.. I finally just quit going .. Ya folks say get involved ya that's fine but what's changed? Just what I've sat through..
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I've seen the same sadly.
Norman Mallory (1 month ago)
Very well said.. I do not know the answer all the way or even part of it as everything has an effect on something, how it's made, how it's used, how it's disposed of on the list goes.. What's a person to do? I feel guilty looking the other way just to go to solar panels which I've been really thinking about when I look at my new panels and know 500 million tons of pollution was created to make them.. Going green but what's the cost of going green ? there has to be a trade off and always is.. How much is your lifestyle going to change? Are you going to be happy with the trade off? Going smaller for your own needs is good, it would be for me.. How much smaller can I go and not change my lifestyle? Do I really need to return to what our pioneers used, two oil lamps, heat water on a wood stove, 10 candles .. Yes it made sense.. Thank you well done..
Norman Mallory (1 month ago)
+Fy Nyth Yes i agree with you, very complex.. It's like trying to get the world to get on board and do some other forms of energy and reduce co2 output, meeting after meeting and even at the summit the US pulled out which left other countries in the world to do nothing.. Fossil fuels power our needs for everything , Big oil , big money , big politics and huge profits.. One new car company in China produced 160 thousand cars in it's second year, the goal in 3 years is 600 thousand cars and they all need gasoline and oil... The largest oil company in the world turned for it's share holders 40 billion in profit in one year, but when asked about other forms of energy what is your company doing ? well he (CEO) said , we have put 100 million in research.. I do agree with several experts in the field , this planet may go so far and then find out the damage cannot be reversed .. Thanks for your reply , take care..
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
It's a complicated topic for sure.
Phillip Loss (1 month ago)
Your discussion touches on one of my favorite topics when people profess that x is cheaper or has less environmental impact than y. Everything we consume has a cradle to grave cost. Every thing has a cost of production and a cost of disposal. Pretty much no one ever factors those costs into their choices for products they consume. I think you raise the bar for yourself and give food for thought to a lot of your subscribers. I hope some will make a few tweaks to their thinking because of what you have said.
OD O'Donnell (1 month ago)
"FLOODED" Batteries are almost of thing of the past! AGM and Gel are now used in most applications.
Gail (1 month ago)
Hopefully, someone will figure out a way to neutralize the toxins at end of life of solar panels. I run an auto parts store and batteries can be recycled. At least, my battery supplier takes “cores” back to refurbish. So, there may be hope for the panels disposal.
Beth Clark (1 month ago)
my definition of off grid falls squarely in the middle of both camps. ....pitch all things that require any "power" and just live. that is very rustic and many of us wouldn't be able to give up i.e. phones, computers, refrigeration etc. as these items are a necessity for many, and more importantly for those that create their income via them. that being said, persons that are aware of a world fueled on our current methods and choose to become "greener" in their choices of power are looked upon as rustic by some and pariahs by others. don't ever consider the opinions of some to be your guidepost for how you do you. if you feel that your impact upon the environment, for your needs, is lessening your footprint with your system, despite the research, then embrace it. maybe someday we can all have a means by which to get the power we need, and desire , in a more eco-friendlier fashion than what is available now. at least you try to reduce your footprint. one step and one person at a time. there is no need to justify or quantify to anyone, even in friendly discussion
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Thanks. But just to be clear, nothing I discussed was based on anything anyone else said to me, but instead on my own personal experiences in life.
you calling me a cave man? lol =)
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Well, you guys did just build a cave... ;)
Brad Mitchell (1 month ago)
Don’t be too hard on yourself If you live and consume which we all do we pollute as green as we try to be From lumber products smelting to make that wood stove to colouring your clothing we are all guilty no way around that fact. Yet
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
True. I just want to live more and consume less as much as possible.
paul joe (1 month ago)
Ariel. Good for you. At least you dont depend on nuclear power which is a much larger issue. Look at Japan. Dont worry your pretty self over solar. Your job in life is lifting up down cast souls in life looking for the light of God.....which I see brightly in your heart. Become a CEO. Then you can change the world even more than your doing. Your perfect.
paul joe (1 month ago)
+Fy Nyth your right. Just keep being you!!!
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Well I can't help but be worried any time my own food, water, and air are being poisoned.
Sarah Clark-George (1 month ago)
It's worth noting that how you source your solar equipment & batteries can make a big difference. There's not much in the way of regulation yet but some companies try harder than others. I've been looking over BioLite's impact report at https://blog.bioliteenergy.com/blogs/road-to-impact/2018-impact-report and they seem pretty good for example. Usually companies that try harder also cost more, so that's not great. As always, using less helps.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Very true.
Antinome82 (1 month ago)
do you have internet connection?
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Yes. Cell based wireless hotspot is the only available option here.
Harry Wolfgang (1 month ago)
Batteries can be recycled . No waste. 👍👍👍😂😂😂😘😘😘No pollution
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Some can be certainly. Though no waste and no pollution is ignoring not only the ones that aren't recycled at all, but also the residues when they are recycled, and the production process in the first place as well.
John Bilyeu (1 month ago)
"I'm not a scientist, I don't have a degree in chemistry, or.. " Could've fooled me. Very thoughtful and scientific analysis of your options. On the idea of downsizing the electrical setup, I would agree however, I think just having refrigeration and a way to charge your computer/communications stuff is worth keeping a small solar setup. And I think the batteries (i.e. lithium ion vs. lead acid) are getting less dangerous/toxic. A tiny solar or even little suitcase generator sounds way better than firing up your van engine just to turn the alternator to charge a laptop battery. Of course the van is equipment/overhead "spent" and might as well be made use of, thought the fuel per kwh generated is far higher.. Yeah, I'd go smaller solar, keep it to refrigeration and low-draw electronics, and use the van for emergencies only. You're one in a million people that ponder this kind of stuff in such great detail.
John Bilyeu (1 month ago)
Cool. I'll be curious to see what you set up.. subd. I bet by the time your existing batteries get tired and you retool the system, the low-footprint kind will be even cheaper. +Fy Nyth
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Oh I didn't mean ever starting and running a vehicle just to charge things. Just making use of that while I'm already driving to a job etc. and it's running anyway.
WESSERPARAQUAT (1 month ago)
baby baby baby, wontcha git down on ur knees! hello burley!
Mein Kapu (1 month ago)
There are no free lunches. :-) Except if you are Mr. Musk. :-)
Teri Johns (1 month ago)
Ariel I know you have made this system work for your current situation but I'm curious what your options will be once you move to your other property? Would you ever go on grid and just use your off grid knowledge to significantly reduces your consumption?
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
There is grid power available there. I don't know yet. I would prefer to avoid the bills and control that come with an outside company. I think I still lean toward just going really close to electric free.
LWY Off Grid Homestead (1 month ago)
I have an issue with battery use in solar systems & did extensive research on setting up a system with no batteries. we have a 48v system. it seems that there is no way to get power from the panels to the inverter without batteries. they r like the middle man...our batteries have died & I don't want to replace them...wanted a system without them...just seems like the batteries r not bypassable :(
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I think there is a way to do that, but you have to have some kind of buffer/charge controller in between that's moderating the charge as the power production changes all the time with clouds and such so you don't blow up what ever you are trying to power.
Snow Andrews (1 month ago)
I listened with interest. As a engineer, I think TWO factors need to be taken into consideration, both LOGIC & PROPORTION. PV Solar is, in my considered opinion, the least environmentally irresponsible solution. The cynical TROLLS that sow the "seeds of doubt" absolutely know that the PUBLIC have little ability to comprehend RATIOS & PROPORTIONS. The LEAD in Lead-acid batteries can be recycled, but as LEAD ACID batteries they are very poor, Lithium is more Environmentally responsible. The PV panels, will (should) last you MUCH much longer than we used (originally) to Believe, this is ALSO absolutely true (last you MUCH longer than we used to Believe last you MUCH longer than we used to Believe) of PV (photo-voltaic solar), but will probably need SUPPLEMENTING (adding to) to offset efficiency losses.
Snow Andrews (1 month ago)
+Fy Nyth Ariel, list the SPECIFIC materials or Minerals that concern you, and ONE at a time, we can look for the Truths regarding each of these Minerals or Materials. Most of what I read, in periodicals & magazines, written by ALARMIST, with regards to Solar Panels, &/or Batteries, is absurd, But one material at at time, we can look into and discuss this (NO blanket generalisations - 1 specific instance at a time). You and I follow one another on one of the Social Media (MW), so maybe that is a better place to continue what will probably become a very long-winded dialogue.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I'm curious if, as an engineer, you've got solid numbers on the amount of toxins/pollutants produced by the whole life cycle of PV solar vs. other power options? It's really hard to find anyone adding up all the numbers, but from everything I can find, it's looking like it's close to the most damaging of all options.
FordFracture (1 month ago)
No matter what you say there's always gonna be someone that's gonna yell foul ! Just smile and keep on keeping on and don't mind them there just jealous of you .
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I'm sure that's true. These concerns however are my own very personal ones and have nothing to do with anything someone else said to me.
Web Luke (1 month ago)
Solar Cells are made in China or India where they have no regulations on pollution, the Panels are made in those countries too but some are finished in the USA. Batteries are made in some of those countries too. There is a lot of pollution from the manufacturing and disposal as she goes over. When you see a photo of a power plant producing millions of watts they are only giving off STEAM and some CO2, the other gases and chemicals are captured and regulated. Modern Nuclear micro reactors that are self contained and fail to a safe state can produce 100-200Mw and built into a group to power a city closer to the use with out losses in the transmission while lasting 50-100 years. Nuclear is the real solution, but public opinion is scared of old bad design, and gas, coal, and oil producers do not want to have the major use of their product shifted something that needs no refueling. The climate changes naturally the biggest thing you can do is reduce your trash output, look at how much trash you create by getting fast food or packaged meal and reuse things rather than throw them out if you really care about the environment.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Some are for sure. Others are made in this country. And yeah there are a lot of folks being poisoned by their production no matter where they are located. I've seen some interesting ideas for better nuclear plans, but don't know of any actually constructed and in use. Things have always changed and will continue to do so. There were glaciers on top of areas now covered with trees near my home and there are sea shells fossilized on top of the snowy mountain peaks here too. I don't worry about that at all. But I do very strongly believe that we can all stop putting poisons into our food, water, and air immediately around us! I don't eat fast or packaged food anyway for my health, but yes that certainly helps reducing packaging as well.
Tricia Brown (1 month ago)
“Practical real life experience”... speaks much more than the written word which can be biased by the author, especially if it’s sponsored by some group or company. I appreciate hearing what works for you and the references you gave. Very educational message. Blessings.
Steve Gerber (1 month ago)
I believe that the company Sun Danzer still makes a chest refrigerator model that is designed to run directly off an appropriately sized solar panel without a battery. It chills special freezer packs to maintain coldness overnight. I think it's rather expensive though, but still it's an interesting idea to think about. Perhaps you could make a similar DIY system yourself! :)
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I have seen those. And yeah they are sure pricy! But at some point, that may be the way to go.
tony 1955 (1 month ago)
Don't worry to much. You have done a good job so far with your set up. When you get ready to up grade to a different set up , Things are better now than 5 or 6 years ago .
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I'm not actually aware of any better options in production and actually available at the moment compared to when I got my setup, and I've been actively looking. But I do hope that changes.
bendigr (1 month ago)
are you still working on the new homestead property?
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Yep. Still the same plans I discussed here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WuHfQFjmkk
Dave Vann (1 month ago)
you can go all propane, L.P. refrigerator, L.P.  generator, lights ect...
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Sure! There's just trade offs with that as well.
Dave Vann (1 month ago)
yes there are degrees of off grid, if you take it to the max you have "cave man"!
super souler (1 month ago)
A scientific mind — Stay Curious .... I appreciate you addressing this as a “heads-up” as well as looking up the road...great open case for discussion ! And A Call To Future Inventors out there ! To the Future 👀
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
:)
Shirley Wiggerman (1 month ago)
I think the whole homesteading/off grid arguments are ridiculous.
Donald Parker (1 month ago)
My belief is that we should be good stewards of our land. Every human is going to produce waste, all life forms do. Take care of what you have responsibly , that's all you can do. Good video.
Tamera Kosa (1 month ago)
Hi Ariel, great video as usual! I follow Doug and Stacy, I know you are friends because they mention you often on their channel as well. I love them and that’s probably how I found your channel. I know that a big part of their channel is about living off grid with no connection to the outside utilities like you said. I was watching one of their more recent videos and they are planning on putting solar power for their new learning center they are building. They even mentioned in the video that they knew followers would be surprised. I wonder if they will change their minds after seeing your video.
Svetlana kotenko-forte (1 month ago)
Well said.
Betsy Marchand (1 month ago)
Thank you Ariel. I wasn't aware of the production issues with solar panels...but I'm glad you made us aware of that. Take care! :o)
Frances Martinelli (1 month ago)
Nuclear plants producing electricity don't pollute and produce waste that pollutes? It's a world of throw away mentality. We lose in the end no matter what.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
They sure do. As I said, I don't know of any method of producing electricity right now that doesn't have some downsides. Most of them serious. And I certainly hope more folks wake up to the problems with a throw away mentality.
Frances Martinelli (1 month ago)
You haven't mentioned your other property for quite awhile. Are you still planning on moving and do you visit the property to make improvements? Will you be filming and sharing the process?
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Yep and yes. Still the same plans I discussed here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WuHfQFjmkk
Judy Proctor (1 month ago)
Thank you
Jen Campbell (1 month ago)
Great insight and researched information, Ariel, thanks. You've given us a lot to think about 🙂
TEDDY R (1 month ago)
Now there is a way to power your house off grid but remember this is not just United States government but all over the world they want control so they do not allow the technology there is a guy who invented an engine that runs off magnets and the guy is from England they don't want to give him a patent and they have taken his videos down I've seen it it works and it can power a whole house 24/7 potential energy does work they just lie to you and tell you that it doesn't unfortunately the big ancho's with all the money don't want you to have it
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I've heard of a few pretty neat ideas that got shelved over time. I hope someone's able to get the designs to the masses anyway at some point.
TEDDY R (1 month ago)
I agree with you about the off-grid situation it doesn't matter what you do as long as you're not plugged in your off grid either way it's a lot cheaper to live that way a lot of off gridders have to use gas unless you got some biofuel which is possible to do an easy you got to have a lot of either farm animals or plant vegetation decomposing ln order to produce biofuel windmills are good but you're depending on the wind and every three years to two years it seems like technology is growing fast so I will not be surprised in the next 3 years don't have a battery out already that is better for solar
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I sure hope things improve!
K M (1 month ago)
Wow, thank you for explaining this! I hope to live my version of off grid someday and want to be as sustainable as I can be, and this information has given me a lot to consider :)
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Best wishes as you work toward making your dreams happen and with whatever you choose as the best option for your situation!
Cammy Burris (1 month ago)
To me propane is bad because of fracking. I think solar will get better.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I certainly hope that either it will be improved or something all together different but better will become widely available!
Chgtuber (1 month ago)
Good discussion. Glad to hear it, and your thoughtfulness is appreciated.
Jesper Andersen (1 month ago)
Oh yeah Ariel, the pollution is where we can make a change, I don't think we can "fix" climate change, Denmark itself has been tropical and there have been forests on Greenland so yes climate has always changed and will always changed, have we sped it up? maybe... The big issue is all the toxic things we dump in nature
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Agreed. Things have always changed and will continue to do so. There were glaciers on top of areas now covered with trees near my home and there are sea shells fossilized on top of the snowy mountain peaks here too. But I do very strongly believe that we can all stop putting poisons into our food, water, and air immediately around us!
JJ (1 month ago)
There is a lot of information about climate change primarily caused be desertification. The hot air currents originate over deserts. You may view some very good lectures on YouTube: Ray Archuleta, no till farming; and the founder of this line of thought, Allan Savory of Africa. It is a very interesting approach to explaining climate change.
Jesper Andersen (1 month ago)
Iron batteries are the way to go, they are not as energy dense as the others BUT they are non toxic, non dangerous, but require more maintenance and they take up more spare but you practically can't kill them if you keep them filled with fluid.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
They do require a lot of ventilation which doesn't work well in my tiny space however, and as you mentioned, constant maintenance. But they certainly have some pros!
shartne (1 month ago)
The earth will abide forever. I am not worried about being green. I just dont want to give the electric company any more money than I have to.
shartne (1 month ago)
+Fy Nyth Ecclesiastes 1:4 King James Bible One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Or not. But there are certainly pros to being more independent.
JJKHaywood (1 month ago)
Absolutely, This is a major point that green does not understand, because they don’t want to be wrong again. It takes a lot of fuel and electricity to make things appear green. Solar is only a expensive alternative to Grid power. Awesome deal if you are a Vehicle Nomad, it really improves life on the road. In Ariel’s case it is a Other source of electricity.
micheal ann holt (1 month ago)
Great outlook on this issue, being able to see both sides of a problem and understanding that there are downsides to everything is important. Many people are headstrong about going green but don't realize there is a whole other harmful production going on! Ur def right about having tradeoffs to everything!
Paul Djerassi (1 month ago)
Hi Ariel and Cuddles,the AOC green deal is a no deal i looked at this from afar its crazy and totally not practical especially when china ,France and other countries spew out Toxic fumes 24 x 7,the WHO states all countries must be involved not just 40% but 100% ,PD.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Well wether it's good or bad, from my understanding, the technology doesn't currently exist for it to be possible to implement at the moment.
Lorri LaQue (1 month ago)
Thermal power is worth exploring
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I'm assuming you're thinking geo/thermal? That is a pretty great way to go if you can.
JJ (1 month ago)
Thermal is interesting.
Darren Cole (1 month ago)
Here is my issue. Every single thing you own. Your car, your tiny house, the items inside your house, the items you use to cut wood, the items you use to garden. All those things are man made and all of them in some way affects the earth. *We* *no* *longer* *live* *in* *the* *stone* *age* . There are trade offs for everything in this world. If anyone thinks that nuclear power is cleaner than solar, Go check out Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushima .... I hear similar comments on electric cars. The thing people dont seem to understand for that is that MODERN cars are still only 20%ish efficient in burning gas yet the electric car is somewhere around 65% efficient. There is solar power plants, hydro power plants, wind power plants. All are still much better than nuclear or coal power plants. Again, *We* *no* *longer* *live* *in* *the* *stone* *age* . Try going back to the stone age. Live in a cave, no car, no power, no heat, no a/c. No refrigeration. Go hunt all your food without any modern tools. Not even clothes. Do this for 6 months. 3 months n the summer, 3 months in the winter then if people survive, they can come back and tell us just how great it was living this way. Im all for going tiny, im all for growing your own food, Im all for trying to simplify your life. You can do this without making it that much harder on yourself and you will still be making a difference in the world. I think its funny that there are kids and adults right now in this world that dont have access to electricity that if they could have it, they would take it in a heart beat. There are companies making solar lights for these folks so they can have light at night without burning dangerous chemicals. Sorry, Im going to have to disagree with you on this. Technology should not be abandoned but instead improved upon. There are constant advances in technology, some great, some slow but it is advancing. To abandon it would be more than foolish, it would be deadly.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
True. My hope is that we all become much more conscious of those trade offs and thoughtful about a lot of the ones that most of us make without any thought at all. And I certainly hope technology improves!
JOEYHIPHOP2008 (1 month ago)
Hi Ariel . Nice to see you . I had a pizza from pizza hut tonight . It would have been fun to have pizza 🍕 With you . ⚓ I'm pretty sure when your batteries have reached the end of their life battery companies will take your old batteries in exchange to recycle them and give you a discount on your new batteries. For recycling your old batteries 🌴🎠⚓
JOEYHIPHOP2008 (1 month ago)
+Fy Nyth Hi Ariel. Right on . I'm a single guy. I tend to watch your shows to see how you do things because you are single to . People who have partners tend not to think for themselves they think as a duo. Not for them self . I'm proud of you Ariel . ⚓ And I enjoy your show . And I'm sure your a fun date . ⚓
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Some places do which is lovely. The closest place I can find that will accept them is about 1000 miles away.
Sean (1 month ago)
I truly admire your conscious thought when it comes to the environment, because the environment is our home. Its health regulates OUR health. Pretending we have no impact is so naive and dangerous. There's nothing 'political' about it, it's just reality. Doing what we can and being conscious about our effects is the only way we can improve the future. I'm agnostic, but if there is a god, he's watching us. He's seeing the animals he created go extinct, he's watching people die from cancer caused by toxins we put into the food chain, etc. In my opinion, tiny homes are one of the ways we can mitigate our effects. Of course, as you say, there are always going to be trade offs, it's another reality we must contend with. But if everyone just made little changes, maybe we can strike a balance between us and the natural world!
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I hope we can all make little changes for sure!
Dirk Marschang (1 month ago)
What about the production of your car and the little stove? Did you think about there making?
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Yes, I now try to think about the production of everything I use. That's part of why I try to almost always get second hand and older things that most folks no longer want and would just throw away and that for good or bad have already been produced.
certified 68 crazy (1 month ago)
The fact is anything you do on this earth including returning to dust in the earth is going to have some negative effect . It is all about trade offs in this world . Just do the best you can and don't agonize over it because nothing is going to be the perfect solution in this world .
Robert Healey (1 month ago)
Just finished talking with one of my college buddies in environmental research, upper Great Lakes region, and they brought up a good point: For those of you using rain water catchment for your drinking supply, make sure to have the water tested for heavy metals and radioactive elements. Turns out the Asian heavy industry exhaust ends up in the upper atmosphere and rains down, literally, as Far East as the Ohio valley region. For those using wood heating, you also should have an air sample taken by the wood stove to check what is released when your wood supply is burned; apparently the trees can also absorb the heavy metals and other contaminants which get released when the wood is later burned. Stuff I never really thought about before, especially about wood releasing toxins the tree absorbed while growing. The wholistic thought process on all the things we use and where it all comes from really puts a new perspective on things. Thank you Arial for bringing this subject up and starting the deeper thought process!
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Sadly we've got some of those same industries here in this country as well. And yes, trees and other plants certainly do absorb them as they try to grow the best they can. As far as firewood, at least in this area, with all the standing dead trees around the mountain west now, and the millions of acres burning every year, for good or bad these trees are going up in smoke either way. It's just a matter of if it's in a controlled fashion that also provides some benefits, or as tens of thousands of acres at a time, destroying most life in that area and blanketing multiple states in choking smoke for months. And yes I know wildfires can be natural. But gigantic human caused ones in areas where the fuel has been stored up for far too many years are truly destructive. Burning so hot that there's almost no regrowth several decades later. I can see several such areas from my home.
BOB THE BUILDER (1 month ago)
Perhaps by the time you are in the position of changing or upgrading your system , improvements will have been made to the degree that the products you chose will do little to no harm to the environment or to those who are producing those products . Now might be the best time to start researching and formulating your plans for down the road.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I sure hope so! And that's why I'm discussing those things right now. :)
Amanda Tripp (1 month ago)
I've read quite a bit about how the batteries made for electric cars create more of a carbon footprint than they will ever make up for in their lifetime of running the electric car itself.
Karen W (1 month ago)
Pure silica is what computer chips are made of. In your phone, computer, etc.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Yep! But if you look at the volume used by computer/phone chips vs. solar panels, there's a pretty large difference. Not that there's not issues with small amounts as well.
Ivy Cole (1 month ago)
Great discussion and research. However, unless you are prepared to stop heating with wood, you are still polluting and releasing carbon into the atmosphere. Do not become a power hermit. The minimum possible impact is the only thing possible. Heck, we as humans, release gases into the atmosphere.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I see what you are saying. But with all the standing dead trees around the mountain west now, and the millions of acres burning every year now, for good or bad these trees are going up in smoke either way. It's just a matter of if it's in a controlled fashion that also provides some benefits, or as tens of thousands of acres at a time, destroying most life in that area. And yes I know wildfires can be natural. But gigantic human caused ones in areas where the fuel has been stored up for far too many years are truly destructive. Burning so hot that there's almost no regrowth several decades later. I can see several such areas from my home.
dfhepner (1 month ago)
Ariel, good points. Having worked in the industry that makes all these kind of things I understand the hazards that are byproducts. I don't through out batteries from flashlights but save them up to take to places that can recycle them. I also do the same with electronic parts when unneeded. A lot of my grid power in my area is coming from hydro power and not coal so I feel ok.
JJ (1 month ago)
Hydro is still one of the best It is amazing how quickly we in America forget Was not long ago that mills in New England ran machinery with water turning wheel turning machinery with leather straps Heck there is a fellow in Canada that excels generating electrical power from tiny brooks So agree with you all the way
Doug Mcdonell (1 month ago)
All manufacturing has an environmental footprint, not just your power system, the steel you own probably has had a larger impact. The easy way to get rid of your AGM batteries is sell them to a scrap yard, few items have a more successful recycling rate than lead batteries.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Very true. Just some parts of manufacturing create problems that most are totally unaware of in their daily lives.
Sue Fisher (1 month ago)
Why don't you try a wind turbine
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Almost no wind in my particular location. :)
Carl4193 (1 month ago)
No poisons... already done !!!, CHECK YOUR HISTORY !!!, and then please share !.
Carl4193 (1 month ago)
You don't need to be scientist, what you do need to do is check out history. They have already got the answers your looking for.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I'm curious what exactly you are thinking of?
Carl4193 (1 month ago)
For your ice box check out a Trompe air compressor and a vortex cooler for that, 17th century frozen meat lockers. Yes they had that. In the winter you could just put your stuff outside in a protected area.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Trompe's are pretty amazing! I just don't have the water and fall required to design one here.
zapfanzapfan (1 month ago)
Great, now you got me thinking of pizza... :-) There are no perfect solutions, one can only strive to improve from whatever one's current level is. Eventually we'll get there. Not to depress you but the electricity used by the servers hosting your videos, the repeaters on all the fiber optic cables transmitting the data to us, not to mention all the electricity used by our computers/screens/phones while watching you is quite considerable :-) We are an industrial civilization, there is no getting away from it. I guess if you really want to go off grid you should move in with the people on North Sentinel. Unfortunately they tend to shot visitors with bow and arrow...
Carl4193 (1 month ago)
Check out graphene batteries, and there are many other types that are not toxic.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
From what I can read, they may be an improvement. But are still being developed. I'm curious if you have links to any other versions currently available for purchase? I'm very interested.
John Sparkman (1 month ago)
Ariel, I too understand these limitations of solar panels and srorage, after doing it since my first system in 85. (still working well.) My old golf cart batteries have been fully recycled into new batteries. As for cells they will be recycled too, see below. The new technologies are so much more hopeful; 3d printed pannels and the Sadoway storage cell. All MIT realities, coming very soon. ✌
Brenda Lawrence (1 month ago)
Interesting and stuff I never really knew about or thought about! I like how you are educating us on this stuff. Hugs, Brenda
Carl4193 (1 month ago)
Please don't go all green peace on me !, think about it, things are improving. And it's happening really fast.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Just a person who is very concerned about what goes into my own food, water, and air personally. :)
wade61265 (1 month ago)
Some very good points and well though out....every thing in life has trade offs....
C Moore (1 month ago)
Did someone guilt you? It seems as if someone hit a nerve with you. You/we are all doing what we can. Recycling/organic/voting/saying no/saying yes. It seems kind of defensive. And isn't this all moot anyway, you my be living on your own property in a few years. Yes? You're OK!!!!
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Not at all. This is based on my own personal experiences. And yes I do hope to move, but where I live doesn't change anything discussed here.
L Muledeer (1 month ago)
WOW! My head is spinning with all this information. Great video. Like you I had never put any thought into the production of the panels or in how to dispose or recycle them. All new things to learn about and ponder on. Thanks for the info. 😳
Rusty Bucket (1 month ago)
hi burly n ariel solar panels are usually brown or a kool purple blue .but save lots of green 😛
4TIMESAYEAR (1 month ago)
Everything we've tried to warn proponents of solar panels and wind turbines about. Thanks for covering these very important issues.
Mark Lynch (1 month ago)
Ah, think what would have happened with the solar panel system materials if they had been used for something else, such as highly disposable computers. A fifteen to 30 year life span for anything manufactured is quite impressive. I think it's a good use of these materials.
Mark Lynch (1 month ago)
I guess more than anything all of this goes to show how complex environmental issue can be. In reality I seem to like electric power a little more than some people. I read the blog of Dancing Rabbit Ecovillage and interestingly they use solar panels. +Fy Nyth
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
300 times is the volume of waste produced by solar production compared to nuclear. Wether radiation or cadmium etc would kill you faster is another issue.
Mark Lynch (1 month ago)
Interesting and fast reply, thanks. About those 300 times cleaner nuclear reactors, well yes until something happens such as Fukushima or Chernobyl. not to mention what happens with all the radioactive material afterwards. Perhaps nuclear isn't really 300 times cleaner after all.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I would hope they would have remained in there natural states as sand, earth's crust, etc. Though I realize that's not guaranteed. Though most are not motivate to go through expensive processes to collect and refine materials that there is not a profitable market for.
TheOtherBill (1 month ago)
Excellent thought process, Ariel. I wish more people had your common sense. Something to add in to your thoughts for the future, especially since you'll be relocating to your own property probably within your 5 year time frame (AFAIK). This is just off the top of my head so refine the idea as you wish. You heat with wood so you might as well produce some steam and use that to spin a generator. The initial cost for a steam engine will be high but your fuel and water will be free. You only need enough power to run a generator for your refrigerator/freezer and to recharge your camera/laptop/headlamp etc. batteries. Might as well keep a few lead-acid batteries charged as they're very recyclable and will make life more convenient. You'd need to run it in the summer so make it in an external building, and pipe the low pressure steam & hot condensate into your home for heating and a hot water heater. There are plenty of possibilities here, a little research will show up a lot more.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I would like to learn more about of those less well know options like steam.
Sarah Augustine (1 month ago)
My THOW is solar powered. I use AGM batteries to store the solar gained during the day. I also sometimes still have to use a generator to keep my batteries in good shape. It this point, I feel I am doing the best for me and the environment. Over analyzing your impact, with today's faulty science and battery technology, is causing you to feel like you haven't done the right thing. Do what you do, and ignore the climate change deniers. No doubt your foot print on this World is far less than theirs.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
I can understand that view for sure. But if one of these "minimal impact", good for other people somewhere else, plants tried to set up shop beside where you live, actively and directly poisoning you, your land, animals, plants, water, air, etc. you might not find it such a distant issue.
Phil Smith (1 month ago)
No kidding - do the "disagreers" know what the word "grid" actually means? Sheesh...
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
:)
Norman Desrosiers (1 month ago)
Ariel You should’ve let barely chew on plastic bottles I have a dog that died it was no good for the digestive system
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
? I should have let Burley chew on plastic bottles? That's not something I generally have around here. He has lots of bones, antlers, etc. for chew toys.
Interesting discussion,really it's difficult to live without doing damage to the environment,in the whole I think you are doing less damage than most .
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
There are a lot of sometimes difficult decisions like life.
webcaster (1 month ago)
If you think making solar panels is bad you'd be shocked by the resources used to make windmills for power
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Yeah. Just no way to cover everything in one video.
Nancy Sue Leske (1 month ago)
Very important information!
kragseven (1 month ago)
Most of these people claiming something you are doing isn't off grid ,turn the lights out in moms basement so they can pretend they are off grid
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
:)
kragseven (1 month ago)
For anyone claiming this or that isn't off grid. This is in Siberia. These people are in the middle of nowhere . They fish and trap to survive. They still require some on grid things to get by . Watch the whole series . Off grid in the US is like the Hilton. Their dogs would kick any dogs ass . 40 below they are outside. The guy takes his snowmobile from his trapping camp to home for Christmas. The dog runs the 120+ miles almost non stop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhPIK-oBvA
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
That looks like a challenging life!
Beth P (1 month ago)
Let me see if I have this right about the comments you’ve heard about not being off grid. Solar cells on a hillside, stored in a battery pack, you use oil lamps at night——. CHECK Driving several miles to get water in 7 gallon bottles because you don’t have access to creek water during the winter ——- CHECK Composting toilet the contents of which you dispose of in an area around your property—— CHECK Wood stove for which you cut wood —— CHECK Grow your own food, process and store it —— CHECK Drive an old van which you park at the bottom of the hill in the spring so as not to tear up the property because it’s muddy—— CHECK Wash your laundry off site, take showers off site ——CHECK So truly, Ariel, unless someone is such a purist, I can’t see what the problem is. Yes, solar panels can have problems, but there has to be something to make them. Even “recyclable” grocery bags that one buys in a grocery store to use over and over again have an impact. Over all, your decision to use solar panels, even though you have batteries, shows you did your homework. We are all going to have some negative footprint. As I’m writing this from my tablet (which I know has a negative footprint as well). Do these same people realize they have some kind of a negative footprint every time they turn on their computer or cellphone? How to dispose of those? Sometimes people can be so enthusiastic about saving the planet, they forget how they get there.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Aww thanks. Bit I think many don't think at all about it. Unless something happens to bring the dangers home to them personally in an immediate and life threatening way.
musicmad (1 month ago)
good morning petal - thoroughly enjoyed this video - you have talked about what is churning around in my head - you have encouraged me to look further into it coz i am cutting down on the electricity into my house - am thinking about cutting it as much as i can and using the lighting candles like doug and stacy have over their dining table - i have some rechargeable light bulbs and now that it coming into winter will see how they go as well and i have an oil lamp for the dining table so that will be interesting as to how that works and throws light - the electricity requirements i need are for my stock piled freezer - the vacuuming - it heats my hot water on demand in the shower and music - i couldnt stand living with no music - i cook on a gas hob and yes i do use a small bench top electric oven and i need a tad of electricity when i make my soaps but honestly apart from those things i dont use any other power - if anyone has any better ideas as to how to cut the consumption down i would love to hear them - for me solar was too expensive and i live with my husband who is on a pension and i cant work now due to injuries that effect my legs - back - shoulder and neck - so i am kinda munted work wise - would love to hear other ideas and see more discussion on this - thanks again and hope i havent rambled too much
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Sounds like you have much more thoughtful usage of power than most already. Very nice.
donm8615 (1 month ago)
I don't think there's such thing as true "clean" energy. The coal plants that power much of the Grid put out mercury, arsenic, and other heavy metals as well (bad enough here in Texas that there are warnings about eating too much wild fish r/t mercury content). I strongly doubt that the amount of pollution from a solar setup approaches the tons and tons of carbon (and aforementioned byproducts) produced by the Grid for each connected household over its "life span." I still vote solar, and let the government figure the recycling part out.
donm8615 (1 month ago)
I finally had a chance to read these. While interesting, they do a poor job quantifying the pollutants in terms most people can understand. The numbers in these documents give you nothing to compare to, nor do they state what's environmentally "relevant." With more info, the numbers could actually be a tiny fraction of what a steel foundry puts out. What's needed -- and sorely lacking, apparently -- is data that breaks down different power sources (grid, solar/battery, nuclear, etc.) into "per customer over life-span" pollution figures. It's impressive to say that producing solar panels or batteries creates "tons of pollutants," but how many pollutants are produced per panel /battery (or kwh?) over the lifespan of that panel? How does that compare to Grid pollution for the same unit of energy over a similar life span? Also remember that going solar always results in end-users rethinking/downsizing their needs and total consumption out of necessity. We learn to live smaller, just like you're doing -- also a very good thing for the planet. Until they start producing figures like this and show that solar is worse, I wouldn't quickly write off solar. Also look at who's producing the figures -- oil and coal companies (and maybe public utilities?) have a vested interest in defeating competing technologies, especially solar.
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Sadly I think those warnings now cover fish from much of the planet. I know we have them here too. If you think the tonnage of byproducts produced is actually less rather than more for solar, you might want to look a bit at what's put out by producing just some of the components of the panels. This is from one of the newest most modern silicon smelters in the world.   https://grapevine.is/mag/articles/2017/09/08/gasping-for-air/ on arsenic levels and more.  https://www.ust.is/library/Skrar/Atvinnulif/Starfsleyfi/Maelingar/Verksmidjur/Rapport-04.10.2017.pdf on formaldehyde levels and more. https://9b37abdd1c3135d9659b-298f012ea728efea7c302ad9a6f7bba0.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/knrd/HiTest_Sand_Newport_PSD_Modeling_Protocol.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0uVdNDP8dKbFdH-w8-DpZUi_UH7Ta8vpkmf4FzRnxjqfr_OvFviCa6b1I has a lot of info, but page 4 has a handy chart of some of the tonnages of things planned to be emitted by the latest smelter planned in this country. The company has since revised their statements to nearly double these amounts. And you find similar numbers for the aluminum used in most panels. And the lead. And then cadmium. And so on.
andrew maw (1 month ago)
how about transitioning from solar to wind turbine, im not sure if u have enough wind, {mayb keep a record of how many windy days n nights u get, not at ground level but at tree top level where a turbine would happily rotate,it could trickle charge your bats day and night, have alook at 'Missouri wind and solar' web site...u could sell/trade in your panels, I guess this does not address your concerns about electricity though. but there are no nasties in a wind turbine....or u could setup a Burley electricity generator treadmill, n dangle his fish toy just out of reach to keep him running ;)
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Between being tucked into a gully in the mountains and the trees, there is almost never wind here. A Burley generator might be a good option! :)
john mine (1 month ago)
is solar green... when batteries fail can you eat them or make them serv another use other the paperweight or doorstop? My bill is under $70 per month for the watt hours I use for what I run the cost would be over $12,000!!!!! 220 volt well pump 20amp draw 220volt aircompressor 20 amp draw 220 volt welder 50 amp draw fridge chest freezer. plus I have oil filled radiators for heat at 120 volts. Before am told get a generator I have 4 from 1500 watts to 10,000 watts and not are capable of running the welder... I tried . aluminum takes 4x the energy to make then steel . Solar.. for places that have no other options. If you have cell/internet your on the grid.
john mine (1 month ago)
+Fy Nyth as it should be... check this out... still have a working icehouse http://fwhp.ca/
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
:) As long as I share things, it will always be the real me, real life, and my actual experiences. I know not everyone likes that, but there are lots of other things to watch if that's not interesting. I started sharing to help anyone who was interested be able to learn from my experiences and mistakes, and that's still my goal.
john mine (1 month ago)
+Fy Nyth please keep doing your channel the way you are without the clickbaitbait and soft porn it really makes it lot more interesting to watch without all the made up drama!
Fy Nyth (1 month ago)
Absolutely. I don't know of any kind of solar setup currently available that is less expensive than grid power. "off-grid adjective \ ˈȯf-ˈgrid  \ variants:  or off-the-grid \ ˈȯf-​ṯẖə-​ˈgrid  \ Definition of off-grid : not connected to or served by publicly or privately managed utilities (such as electricity, gas, or water)" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/off-grid Though I have heard some younger folks use the term to refer only to internet usage, regardless of anything to do with physical utilities, so I do know that definition is making it's way into urban dictionaries. Show less

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